Terry,
I think you are getting yourself worked up over nothing. And as a consequence you are misinterpreting the statutes.
tsrwright wrote:This unpublished photo business is still a worry
Yes I know I said I couldn't categorically say that unpublished photographs created prior to 1 June 1957 were out of copyright, but that was due to my natural caution on such matters because the courts have not definitively ruled on this possible anomaly. That is not to say I think it is a major issue.
tsrwright wrote:It does look as if Section 3, subsection 2 of the Seventh schedule to 1956 Act applies to photos taken before its commencement so that for unpublished photos taken before 1 June 1957 copyright was extended until after they were published.
I don't follow your argument here. Section 3 of Schedule 7 deals with ownership of the copyright, not the duration (which is covered in section 2 of the schedule).
tsrwright wrote:In Schedule 1 to the 1988 Act we find at 12 (2) (c) that copyright continues to subsist in published photos until it would have expired under the 1956 Act.
what section 12(2)(c) actually says is: "published photographs and photographs taken before 1 June 1957" which reads to me as 'all photographs taken before 1 June 1957'. This is a major pointer to the contention that section 21 of the 1911 Act did in fact refer to all photographs, whether published or not.
tsrwright wrote:12 (4) (c) then says copyright in unpublished photos taken on or after 1 June 1957 subsists until (effectively) the end of 2039. Subsection(6) says copyright in any other description of existing work runs according to the 1988 Act.
I agree with you on this, but surely this merely serves to highlight that 1 June 1957 is the watershed as far as unpublished photographs are concerned. To that extent it has no bearing on the particular image you are concerned about, since we know that was made at some time prior to 1903.
tsrwright wrote:That seems to mean that unpublished photos taken prior to 1 June 1957 now had a copyright period that extended to 50 years from the end of the year of the death of the author. That period was extended to 70 years by the 1995 Regs.
No, I disagree. Unpublished photographs taken before 1 June 1957 had the term laid down in the 1911 Act (section 21) which was 50 years from the date they were made, because paragraph 2 of the 7th Schedule of the 1956 Act explicitly says so.
tsrwright wrote:Presumably the 1988 Act provisions regarding unknown authors applies so where that is the case the copyright period could run to just 70 years after the end of the year in which it was made, or, if later, first published.
The provisions for anonymous works under the 1956 Act are contained in Schedule 2, but are singularly unhelpful in the case of photographs.
Copyright Act 1956 Second Schedule
1. Where the first publication of a literary, dramatic, or musical work, or of an artistic work other than a photograph, is anonymous or pseudonymous, then the subject to the following provisions of this Schedule -- (a) subsection (3) of Section 2 of this Act shall not apply ...
In other words, as far as anonymous photographs are concerned, Section 2(3) does still apply. However this section explicitly does not apply to photographs either, whether anonymous or otherwise, so that leads us nowhere. The Section of the 1956 Act which deals with artistic works (which includes photographs) is Section 3, but that does not mention anonymous works, so again we are no further forward, and have to fall back on the general terms of the 7th Schedule, which I submit must therefore be interpreted to cover all photographs made prior to 1 June 1957 irrespective of their publication status and whether or not they are anonymous. It is this sort of ambiguous drafting which leaves the lingering doubt over the issue of some pre-1957 photographs.
tsrwright wrote:It is impossible to determine who the first copyright holder was but I am sure it would have been the company that owned the negative and the negative is now owned by the Science Museum London.
So, turning to the portrait of John Prestwich, which I assume is the work you are interested in, I think we can be certain that either Mr Prescott personally or his company J.A Prestwich Manufacturing Company, would have been the owner of the copyright. We can presume this from section5 (a) of the 1911 Act
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- (a) where, in the case of an engraving, photograph, or portrait, the plate or other original was ordered by some other person and was made for valuable consideration in pursuance of that order, then, in the absence of any agreement to the contrary, the person by whom such plate or other original was ordered shall be the first owner of the copyright
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However it is not certain on the facts you have given that the Science Museum 'owns' anything other than the physical negative. Indeed they may not even own that if the company archives are on permanent loan or some other arrangement short of full ownership. And of course ownership of copyright, if the work is still in copyright, which I doubt, would be an entirely separate matter.
Up to your most recent posting I had been assuming that the image had been published in some company document or magazine, because you knew the specific date of 1902. However you say
tsrwright wrote: It is unpublished I am sure.
For all the reasons given above I think the portrait photograph of Mr Prestwich can be considered out of copyright, and that therefore the Science Museum can allow you to copy it without incurring liability.
tsrwright wrote:There is no indication in the company's archive as to who the author was so the company's copyright, which would have expired 70 years after the end of the year in which the author died, would expire 70 years after the end of the year in which the photograph was made - 1972.
The 1911 Act does not address the issue of anonymous works. If it is accepted that section 21 of that Act encompasses all photographs, the problem is disposed of, since the duration of copyright rests solely on when the photograph was made, and we know that was prior to 1903. If it is not accepted that section 21 covers anonymous works, then the 1956 Act (and its defective Second Schedule) is of no use. If we then turn to Schedule One of the 1988 Act, we hit the problem outlined above, namely that paragraph 12 (3) which deals with anonymous works, excludes photographs, and thus paragraph 12 (2)(c) must apply, namely that a photograph taken before 1 June 1957 is out of copyright, due to the provisions of the 1956 Act, specifically paragraph 12 of Schedule 7.
I hope you can follow all that!