Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 12:46 pm
Hi, this issue has cropped up again because when I challenged the Scottish National Library on their 70 years pma copyright period for a for a pre June 1957photograph they advised as follows:
Regulation 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations reads as follows:
“Copyright in an existing copyright work shall continue to subsist until the date on which it would have expired under the 1988 provisions if that date is later than the date on which copyright would expire under the new provisions.†[emphasis added]
Regulation 12(2) of the 1995 Regulations clarifies:
““the 1988 provisions†means the provisions of that Act as they stood immediately before commencement (including the provisions of Schedule 1 to that Act continuing the effect of earlier enactments)â€
In other words, you are correct, Schedule 1 of the 1988 Act is still in the Act. However, the 1995 Regulations allow those survival durations to apply only where they provide a longer period of protection than a work would receive under the new (1995) provisions. Because the material in question here receives a longer duration under the new provisions, the new provisions are those which apply.
I thought we had been over this argument but I can't see it in the earlier conversation here.
When I read 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations they seem simply to be saying that a 1988 provisions copyright expiry date will not be brought back to an earlier date that were to result from the 1995 regulations. It does not seem to be saying that any earlier date will be made later!
Does it mean whatever you want it to mean?
I have been sent the attached which seems useful but it also contradicts the argument that all pre June 1957 photos are out of copyright:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... wchart.pdf.
This is now being handled under the Library's official complaints procedure and I am prepared to push it to a formal review if I feel I have a sound argument.
Any further help you can give regarding 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations would be much appreciated.
Regards
PS The book is printing - see www.loosefillings.com
Regulation 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations reads as follows:
“Copyright in an existing copyright work shall continue to subsist until the date on which it would have expired under the 1988 provisions if that date is later than the date on which copyright would expire under the new provisions.†[emphasis added]
Regulation 12(2) of the 1995 Regulations clarifies:
““the 1988 provisions†means the provisions of that Act as they stood immediately before commencement (including the provisions of Schedule 1 to that Act continuing the effect of earlier enactments)â€
In other words, you are correct, Schedule 1 of the 1988 Act is still in the Act. However, the 1995 Regulations allow those survival durations to apply only where they provide a longer period of protection than a work would receive under the new (1995) provisions. Because the material in question here receives a longer duration under the new provisions, the new provisions are those which apply.
I thought we had been over this argument but I can't see it in the earlier conversation here.
When I read 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations they seem simply to be saying that a 1988 provisions copyright expiry date will not be brought back to an earlier date that were to result from the 1995 regulations. It does not seem to be saying that any earlier date will be made later!
Does it mean whatever you want it to mean?
I have been sent the attached which seems useful but it also contradicts the argument that all pre June 1957 photos are out of copyright:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/docu ... wchart.pdf.
This is now being handled under the Library's official complaints procedure and I am prepared to push it to a formal review if I feel I have a sound argument.
Any further help you can give regarding 15(1) of the 1995 Regulations would be much appreciated.
Regards
PS The book is printing - see www.loosefillings.com